can have this announcement we'll have the word tonight. right now the dow is basically flat. cavuto. >> thank you, shepard. could be a train wreck. what it supposed to be all along? welcome everybody. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. kathleen sebelius may be helping out the healthcare law in georgia, but as premiums spike and insure arers run, did harry reid say all these barriers were by design. he was asked if the u.s. would scrap an insurance based health care. >> obamacare is the right direction but we're far from having something that wick work. >> so we'll work beyond insurance. >> absolutely, yes. neil: don't say i didn't warn you. i was covering the vote and debate on the hill.

this was ultimately the goal anyway, and even though some democrats expressed disappointment that we didn't end up getting a single pair system issue it was a trojan horse deal ultimate he leading to that. >> all right. to -- katy, they have tipped their hand here, this would eventually -- might still be the goal. are you surprised? >> i'm not surprised. you're very good at predicting things like this. >> it's not about me. >> you know everything. >> neil: my name is still on the show. anyway, what do we have to fear? >> death by a thousand cuts. we're seeing insurance companies pulling out of this, states limiting insurance exchanges, companies not willing to submit their customers to fraud to these changes, employers cutting the 40-hour work week, unions and the base saying we need to change this, and the solutions are to say, look, obamacare didn't work.

the only option to fulfill the promise of healthcare for everybody is the sing pair system. and we hat a love of people on the left upset that the obamacare did not good far enough and people voted for it based on the idea it would lead to single pair system. >> neil: but you had to sell it as we're not going to debunk the entire system, we're going to keep it the way you know it, keep your doctor and your insurance company, yadda, yadda, yadda. if that was the goal its panning out that way. >> well, you're absolutely right. you almost thereof say this was designed to be such a train wreck it would takes us where they want to go but this is taking them in that direction without a doubt. it was absolutely sold as some kind of economic elixir and then we are were told forking about

about the economic benefits, it's about mankind fairness and this whole middle class bar gap, everyone gets healthcare, so the dollars and cents aspect doesn't matter. have to figure out how to resell it again to single payer system, make hugging at the heart strings and mitigating their impact on our wallet you. think it's a nightmare now, as nancy pelosi says, wait until we learn more about it. >> neil: wasn't the only one warning about this. the top democrats were pushing for this, were embracing this idea before for political expedience si they -- spendensy they turn from it. here's senator obama and other democrats. >> i happen to be a proponent of single payer? everybody in? let me ask you. single payer healthcare. system. that is what i'd like to see. but we may not get there

immediately. >> i believe the goal here is to create whatever legislation we 1/2 a way that could be developed into something like a single payer system. >> i'm all for a single payer system. we have to work with what we've got to close the gap. >> neil: unless you can say what we've got is a bunch of insurance companies gouging you through the nose. their costs have again up to cover people with preexisting conditions and this plays out almost to script. >> what they never talk about is how to lower prices without government intervention so tort reform is one thing we haven't seen. the reason why insurance costs are so high is because doctors and insurers have to pay for insurance to cover lawsuits they have to take care of in terms of what the system was set up as, they never talk about the implication office a single payer system. no can talks about the report from england showing 13,000 unnecessary deaths since 2005 as

a result of government single payer system over there because of the lack of care. and that is one thing people need to know, and i think because you look at the poll numbers, obamacare has never been popular at all, and i don't think people are going to go for an overall government takeover of the system. >> neil: this is they get so tired of the way things are going and say we need relief from this. >> maybe. already the president removed the employer mandate because the last thing he wanted was small businesses, who probably had the higher public opinion approval rating, to whine about this going to go mid-term elections. it's going to be tough. a lot of people were thinking i'm going to get this wonderful care, there's a big difference between having health care insurance and having health care. a lot of people want to go to the doctor and say, my knee, my elbow, my back, three years ago, i hurt my hip, a lot of people are going to say, this isn't what the president promised me.

it could backfire big-time. >> neil: do you think we're saying this too clever -- by accident, something that looked like the system as we have it is imploding but this was not their intent at the beginning. >> they're going to blame the insurance companies and say the evil insurance companies are still raising your prices when really they were lower before we got obamacare and the affordable care act. >> they stopped a lot of common sense things. tort reform, there's a wal-mart of healthcare insurance out there if they would level the playing field. it's really a simple premarket solution. >> neil: don't put the name wal-mart on that. fresh direct comes to mind. >> costco. now think democrats are running away from the healthcare law in 2014? >> we will re running on obama

care in 2014. we set it up to run on it in 2014. all they're talking about kicks in, in january 2014. we'll start the exchanges october 1, 2013. we expect to run on it and expect to win on it. >> neil: well, consistent, but all of this despite news and a poll that shows 57% of voters think implementation of the law itself is a joke so some say democrats have no other choice but to support it. but it's going to be an uphill climb but maybe they're hoping it's still popular. >> what they're counting on is january 1st, when the subsidies start flowing for millions of americans to purchase health insurance, and the big question is going to be, they're definitely going to be people who are helped by this. the question is, are there more of them than people who are hurt by this? i think that's the huge question of obamacare. you listen to representative

clyburn. he can't say anything else. this is the signature achievement of president barack obama's presidency, the biggest vote that clyburn and many others have taken in congress. >> neil: they must be aware that the core democratic -- such as unions say, go slow here. they're running into stiff opposition within their own ranks. >> that's the reason the president delayed the prime minister mandate by a year, because he had heard a lot from bigger employers. another point in that interview, represent clyburn says we'll have to make changes in obamacare. we had to make a bunch of changes in social security and medicare. we have to make change. hair going to have hard time making changes with republicans in the house and senate because there was zero republican buy-in. they decided to pass the bill

unilaterally from democrats and they're not going to get any republican help so it will be hard to make fixes, so they'll be in the position of blaming republicans for not fixing what the democrats passed. >> neil: do you think this is just the desure for big confident programs, hey have to be fixed, patched, repatched, and medicare and social security when they came into fruition. this is no different. everybody take a chill pill. >> they have made the changes in the past. the question is how do you make changes? president obama just did this himself. the obamacare law, which he signed, says that the employer mandate is to go into effect on january 1. he says we'll just wait a year. "the new york times" asked him, did you at least check with some lawyers before you did this? he said lawyer? i don't need lawyers. i know more before the the constitution than those guys in congress. so the president is determined to fix this himself if he can't

get any help from congress. >> neil: we don't need no stinking lawyers. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: these guys really don't seem to get it. maybe they should take a cue from the is baseball player who does? when you're in the public eye, houston about first making the public proud. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling. this is some really strong stuff! so you turned me into a cartoon...lovely. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. what areow! that hurt!k there? no, no, no, no. you can't go to school like this, c'mon.

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the forum to speak to business leaders on a daily basis about helping kids. we have to be great examples. what i can do is not get in trouble. >> people in positions of power should be held to higher standards, but tamara sees things differently and doesn't have any standards. i'm kidding. i'm kidding. >> no, you're not. let's be honest. >> tamara, you think much ado about nothing? we should treat them no differently? >> athletes, politicians, celebrities are all in a business. they're businessmen, and if you listen to mark teixeira's interview on another network this morning, he was on the trading floor talking about responsibility, and he -- the responsibility was not about being a role model. he said, we have to take responsibility, we're revel right now. we need to get interested in business so we can cash in when we're -- >> neil: referring to comments he made over the weekend.

intimating about a-rod or -- alex rodriguez under pressure to leave baseball. that these guys have an obligation. i extended it to say, does anyone in the public spotlight have an obligation to go beyond the letter of their job to provide an example? >> well, the thing is, there's two ways to look at this. one is straight up. they should be a good example for other people. two, you want to talk about business. prom a business standpoint, what dumber thing can you do than to damage your brand to the point where it becomes -- >> neil: what if your bond -- you're a spitzer, weiner, you have already damaged your brand, and now you're in the middle of legal tussles to gain some credibility, or just wear another your welcome, where is the credible in that? >> if agree with you, that you don't want to damage your brand by doing stupid things and engaging in stupid behavior. but there are certain things that mark teixeira has done outside of the baseball field. for example, he set up a

scholarship fund for -- at his high school for a kid who was killed. >> neil: politicians do things similar? >> those are the things that make you a role model. those are the things not -- not that your out on the field hitting a ball. at the end of the day athletes just pawns in a bigger business. he is just there to make money for the yankees. >> neil: the field where the politicians are the examples you set and i think what he is also saying, to whom much is given, much is expected. >> you just read my mind. you can't have the attitude that it's a right to do what you're doing. it's a privilege to play piano like billy joel does to play baseball in front of packed stadiums. that's a privilege. >> neil: what about politicians. >> politicians is a whole other seminar and we can't cover that today. >> neil: they have an obligation to just get out of the way if

they're an embarrassment on the political field, coming back on the political field. embarrassing themselves. >> no. it's the duty of the voters in this democracy in which we live to determine whether or not we want to re-elect somebody. >> why put the voters through it? >> putting the voters through it. first the person has to be convincing enough that their platform is michigan that the voter -- is something the voters want and they have to raise money and give donors and if the donors want to give money to member like anthony weiner, that's their right. he won't get a penny from me but this is the democracy in which we live, and. >> i guess wore overanalyzing this a bit. one thing i took from the remarks, even though it's not wherein into your contract to be an example, the yankees hire you to be a great player. you are just running for congressional seat or running to be a controller of new york or just running away from women

suing you in san diego, but there should be a higher standard. you're reminding voters or fans, i realize that i occupy an important public space and i'm not going to abuse it. >> you can argue this both ways and a lot has to do with withextensive media coverage of politicians. we have very many famous politicians doing untoward things and nobody knew about it and they were lionized through the end of their life and career. now fast forward to a situation where people are under intense media scrutiny and you say, wait a minute. if you fine out that weiner is doing what he is doing or spitzer did what he did or filner is doing what he did, are they viable for public office? you can debate that both ways. >> neil: our greatest leaders on the right and the left say we shouldn't focus on this. but should we focus more on this? >> no. it's the duty of parents and mentors and people you work with who --

>> neil: you are a public figure. you're on this show a good deal. a lot of people, young women, young men, look up to you. do you think there's a certain responsibility that you don't act like a jack-ass? >> oh, shoot. i'm thinking about this weekend. [laughter] >> neil: that's a very good point. >> let's talk about that. >> i think that i'm a human, and i engage in certain behaviors that certain people may think as not moral and ethical. >> neil: not concerned about the details. i think on surface level, nothing bad with saying you're in the public eye, behave. >> i don't understand how these guys don't walk around, filner, weiner, and spitzer, with a straight face. >> role models are for younger children. this is a woman -- >> neil: no, they're not.

role models are for all of us. >> okay. >> neil: we have to look up to people and those in the public eye -- there's a responsibility in some degree. isn't there? >> it's general moral and ethical standards, period, whether or not you have a certain job -- >> neil: not to be just a demining ass. they may not agree with your politically but you do have responsibility not to abuse the rights of being a public figure. right? >> but i'm one of the few liberals here and it's hard not to upset people. >> neil: when you upset me, nothing to do with anything personal you do. >> just everything that i believe. right? >> neil: pretty much. makes me think when i caught his remarks and i -- >> i'm going to have an exciting night, go home and read a book. >> neil: we do not mean -- >> more missing out. >> neil: think about who we hold up to our children. the years out is the media

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>> neil: this just in. a rand out. to hear jennifer rubonin they don't have a chance but the media ain't no winner when it comes to pinging winners. monica i was reminded what the main stream media was saying about someone who turn out to be a hero to them early on, john f. kennedy, and i want to go become in time here. back to jfk. >> i am not the catholic candidate for president. i'm the democratic party's

candidate for president who happens to be a catholic. >> headlines were bee moaning hecastickism and he stood no chance of -- >> political history is littered with examples of the main street media getting things wrong. they discounselled jimmy carter, bill clinton, george w. bush. all had successful careers, and so many candidates the main dream media loves they go down in a ball of flames and in 2008, everybody was 'tapping hillary clinton. >> you mentioned bill clinton the modern-day of the left, and i can remember headline office him runnin' 1992 when his affairs and everything else. he didn't have any chance at all and he was going up against a very popular incumbent. so he was political dead meat and then he became the president. >> can i say something.

sitting in the "washington post" newsroom and writing things like this is the last place on earth to understand presidential politics, shaping the future. the which will phoning for all candidates is at a unique moment in history. we have only nonincumbent election, something is going on. the country is dissatisfied. if the run -- republicans run the traditional candidates they'll law enforcement -- they'll lose. donald trump, he said differently? i was reading the news -- she didn't mention what he said, and what did he say? we need to be a rich country again so we can afford to keep medicare and social security, which have no money. that is a whole new message. >> neil: monica, lost in the message is that was a journalists seize on whatever

the polls are saying. if you went with that in 2008 early on, with president barack obama and hillary clinton vying for the presidential nomination of the democratic part, you would buy that barack obama had no chance in hell. then you would say, oh oh, we now have to change our mind. so i always thing these things are based on a snapshot at the moment and then they're snapped and shot. >> also a little bit of a chicken and egg problem. the mainstream media wants to create a conventional wisdom but think that reporting conventionl wisdom. main stream media loves a horse race so they create a horse race -- >> neil: or kick the dog they always hated. richard nixon number -- in 1962. >> as i leave you, i want you to know, just think how much you're

going to be missing. you don't have nixn to kick around anymore. because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference. >> neil: they got that wrong. wasn't. he came back six years later to become the president. the right or -- my point is, making snap -- >> these people are so into whatever their dinner conversations-at cometail -- cocktail parties. what they don't understand is the presidential politics is about shaping the future. barack obama, you like it or not, had a message at a moment when people wanted to hear hope and change. >> neil: a media with a new flavor. >> but everyone said at this point. hillary has it rapped up. the presidential policy is about the future and not the past, and it's about who can shape the moment if someone can. and this is a wide-open race for that, and.

>> neil: you wouldn't dismiss the "washington post." >> not at all. ted cruz, ran paul, and rick santorum. i wouldn't dismiss any only them. three and a half years is an eternity in presidential politics. >> or new york politics. >> right now the closest thing to sure bet is hillary clinton. i of she decides to run then you can pretty up go out on a limb and say she would clear the field, walk away with the nomination. >> neil: i disagree. >> go ahead. >> i think the moment is no one has shaped -- she cannot run as a candidate of the conventional what is going on now -- >> neil: not a given. >> not a given. >> neil: hard to beat right now. >> she has two tsunamis of good will coming at her, which are deserved. one she was humiliated by her husband, two she was humiliated by barack obama.

people want to make it up to her. >> neil: i will leave you with this. 1948. when this gentleman was given up for political dead meat. remember this image and just frame it in your head. harry truman. didn't have a chance in hell. apparent live he did. all right. the media not giving rand a hand. why is that not at all surprising? is that why ron paul is pulling a glen beck and launching his very own media channel. ron paul starts firing up on smn, 8:00 p.m. you don't get it? >> go get it. >> you're much better in this studio, guys, than you are elsewhere. taxes are up today. more proof we need to keep it up?

>> neil: the u.s. budget gone is some rinking. down 38% in july. all that amid higher taxes and lower government spending. why scotty says we need to keep up with the spending cuts and rick says maybe it's proof that the higher taxes work. so scotty, what you're saying is it's not both. it's the spending cuts, not the new tax revenue year the sequestration came and went and, guess what, we still have puppy dogs and rainbows and lollipops.

>> neil: really? they wanted to phase that out. >> they did, but the conservatives won and we still have happiness in the united states. our military seem to be the only one that suffered under the sequestration with their forced taking off time. that being said to rick's point, it's completely wrong. this shows we need more cuts and maybe we need more sequestration to have a better economy. >> neil: more cuts? >> first, based on the good news we just go, n a-n a-n a. that's how i'm feeling. >> neil: whoa do you determine -- we can both remember -- >> we're dinosaurs and we remember back -- >> neil: but we got so used to crappy news, and we look at this as heaven. >> look at the percentage of cuts. they're huge. this is a major reduction. >> neil: what do you credit -- >> a variety of things. one-beyond the president, the economy is returning you. see higher texas rev -- higher

tax revenue. higher taxes on exceedingly wealthy people, yes, it's playing a role. >> neil: but short lived. a 0 lot of that money could wander. >> just shows the amend of padding we put into our federal government. so, good. we cut some. let's keep cutting. >> neil: maybe a little of both. >> we're not disagleing with cutting. >> and breaks for small businesses. >> the cuts should be a little smarter than the sequester thing, which is ridiculous. i have no problem cutting into the budget diligently -- >> with your party loa he to address entitlements. >> the president -- >> neil: on a dime. >> all you ever said is we will take these issues on. >> neil: but they don't.

>> you're saying they don't based on history. >> neil: for both parties. >> which is fair. >> neil: you think they should. >> they, should coupled with continuing some little bit higher taxes for the 1%. >> neil: how much high center. >> i don't know. >> neil: 40% is not enough? >> it's not 40%. >> neil: 39. >> do you know anybody -- you don't pay that. >> neil: do you think that rate could be high center. >> -- higher? >> it's not about rate. cincinnati neat should be higher? >> no. the knelt result should be higher. >> we're in this false sense of security. obamacare is going to hit come january. that right there could possibly crush our economy and small business because they're going to be hit with taxes they can't afford. >> neil: none of that seems to be happening. >> right few because obamacare is not fully implemented. >> due you know what percentage of mall businesses are touched by obamacare?

>> exempt -- >> neil: shock -- >> not doing anything. >> neil: shocked they're not providing health care in. >> they haven't been providing it until now. but people don't know that mall businesses need to know, is that there are tax credits there are for you. ask your account. >> neil: guys running businesses making it up. >> it's not about not -- it's about not knowing. >> that's why the majority of businesses are cutting employees to halftime. >> no they aren't. >> they are. >> neil: the biggest surge of parttime workers, three-quarters. >> 0.2% of them are people who wish they've could get fulltime. >> you're a lawyer. >> that -- >> you win. >> neil: you guys were great. seriously. in the meantime, you better be sick or you could be taxed because your boss is watching your every move and they just

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>> neil: better watch where your click. an air new zealand employee fired for using the company's policy, trying to get the job back. claiming the company had no proof she was faking things. but a government agency is now requiring she actually hand over her facebook account information because the airline says it will prove that she was never really sick. does the company deserve to see such personal information to prove its point or any point, on anyone? and would this ever fly over here? jennifer says it's a violation but spencer says if she is innocent, she should be willing to prove it. you say, go ahead, have at it. proof your innocence. >> in this case, under these circumstances, the government made the right decision, the regulatory committee overseeing this. she has been fired for an

alleged violation of her sick day policy. >> took a whole bunch of sick days. >> she said, i didn't violate the policy. give me my job back. she filed a complaint seeking to get her job back. the airline said, okay, let's see this. it's not as if her employer is trying to invade her privacy. if there's something that is so private and confidential shat she doesn't want to reveal, go fine another job. she doesn't need to pursue this litigation. this is an effort to get her job back. she did nothing wrong, and she should really not have a problem with turning this over if she is that dead set about getting her job back. >> neil: what do they want to see that is causing the commotion? she is on facebook or talking to friends or whatever or doing more? obviously if you're at home sick you might be at your computer or talking to your friends but you're not up to flying around as a stewardess. >> i couldn't disagree more. this facebook is private information.

this company is on a fishing expedition, clearly. they're looking to see -- and just trying to intimidate her to give up her claim and that's what i see here. >> neil: what did she abuse the policy and took an inordinate number of days that -- got to check because something doesn't add up. >> there's absolutely no proof in this particular case that she was out doing anything else but home sick in bed during these particular days. and the company is just looking, based on supposition only, at her facebook account. they want to look at her bank statement. neil: they say she took five times the normal sick days. again, he said, she said, she said, but there is a point -- >> how is facebook relevant to this? >> nobody said it's relevant. no one -- >> neil: any online information, anything that proves -- what the company is trying to say that

she wasn't at home sick. is that -- >> i can tell you -- no, no, no, let me finish. >> number one, no one saw her anywhere doing anything out of the ordinary. >> neil: a facebook picture could crop up. >> you can't say that. >> they do have evidence to believe. they do have evidence to believe chev misused her -- >> they do have eaved. >> that's why they fired her. obviously if they have -- >> neil: all right ladies. word to the wise. if you're sick, get to work. its black berry just dade? the mobile phone maker is said to be looking for a possible buyer, trying to compete for the smartphone rivals. the maker of what used to be dub the crackberry looks increasingly cracked. scott martin says don't get lazy. scott, i remember when this

company ruled the roost. what happened? >> i guess they lost that addiction from the consumer because that's exactly right. if you look at blackberry -- not just this year. the last several years, competitors have caught up. it's the tortoise and the hare st.. they thought everything was great. the competition did some strides in catching up to them and now at it really thenning to put the company flat out of business. >> neil: put we always see this as industry leader for a time -- there was prodigy and then aol and now all the world is google, and i always think you can write your kingship in pencil before it device -- dissolves. what do we as individual whose follow them and individuals generally in the human race forget? >> not to mention individuals that buy the products. that's the tough business that is the consumer these days. they're very well-informed, very price conscious and, therefore, very fickle. so that's the problem with

blackberry. they're way behind in the product cycle behind htc and samsung and apple and the price as well. the prices have not come down like the apple iphone which is now going to a lower price marketed. so your seeing blackberry suffer on the saleses and product side. >> neil: if you're apple, what do you flint from this? >> i think you laugh and see the target go off of you because now folks are focusing on what is going to happen to blackberry. what you might get out of it if you're apple, blackberry still has 70 million subscribers. they are probably losing subscribers as we speak. apple has a chance to pick those up so that's something i would be licking my lips for if i war apple. >> neil: i want to tie this story to sure bets or nonbets for the presidency in 2016.

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now you have to watch out for big retailers, too. a growing number of stores are tracking your returns. you go back to the store to return an item, make too many and you might get flagged by the stores. privacy advocates are up in arms about this practice. fox business network jerry willis, how unusual the practice is, whether there's something to be said of constantly following those that return too much. >> the problem is this has been

going on a long time. they just don't tell you they're doing this. these retailers were keeping the information, bed, bath and beyond, victoria's secret, i would be okay, but they're not. they give it to a third party and that third party gives it to 27,000 retailers across the country. >> then you have a most wanted picture. >> i think it is a breach of privacy, i am not in favor. >> let me ask you something, when they are looking at people this return items multiple times to a store, that raises the antenna. >> because this is the way some of the thieves operate. they will buy things, return them. they'll buy things, switch tags so it looks like it is worth more than it is or less than it is. >> return without a receipt and get store credit, essentially the same. >> exactly. >> what would be wrong, i know you're out to save people money, do a very good job here. even if this is an embarrassment to some, if it net-net saves money to target folks that

return an unusual number of items, what's wrong with that? >> save people money. hmm. so you're assuming retailers are saying we will return some of that money to something like $270 billion that they get shop lifted for? if you're going to stroke a check to me and take my personal information, that's fine. but i kind of wonder if that's really going to happen. >> but that is under the auspices that they do this, right? here is a word of warning, these guys are going to suck you dry, you should be advised. >> here is the personal information they take. they take all the info from your address, name, date of birth, and many don't tell you this is happening. they're getting something for nothing at this point. i would rather be paid for it. sure, you want to give me a piece of the action, that's fine. >> where would you draw the statute of limitations, someone in the course of the year returns three, four, five, six items? >> i think that's a great question. i think the retailers have at

their fingertips more powerful tools to catch thieves. they have cameras all over the stores. that seems more powerful to me than tracking my every return. >> yeah, like look who's back again. >> yeah. >> all right, gerri willis, not something you want to deal with if you return an item. catch her show 6:00 p.m. and at 9:00 p.m. she's relentless, by the way. when harry gets huffy, racism isn't the issue. at a dry cleaner,

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for a lot of democrats, it is the gift that keeps giving. if all else fails, call republicans racist obstructionists. harry reid said they have done all they can to stop barack obama at every path. >> it is obvious they're doing everything they can to make him fail, and i hope, and i hope, i say this seriously, i hope that

it is based on substance, not the fact that he's african-american. >> harry, really? again? are you serious? are you still doing this 50 years after martin luther king's speech on the washington mall, you're still shopping backwards bigotry on the american public? maybe you're too busy concentrating on the color of the president's skin and not the content of his legislation, your legislation, legislation that even die hard democratic supporters are dying to undo, like unions who have had it with health care law provisions they now call onerous. does that make them racist, or maybe just clueless? or environmentalists that promised to back the president if he backs keystone. and the unions that support keystone, conflicted, bigots? me, i've had enough of this. each has their reason for thinking what they do, but i really don't think the

president's thinking of what they want. surely we moved beyond this. maybe it is time democratic leaders take the time to just get this. those who oppose that agenda of spending are more worried about spending too much green than fearing the guy pushing that spending is black. it just strikes me as odd that a politician would sooner race to a microphone and shout the "r" word than stop and look in the mirror and get a clue, because my problem isn't with the color of any politician's skin. my problem is much more often with the thickness of it. you know, we have got to stop this nonsense. every time you oppose the president on policy, it is that you're a hopeless racist. this is beyond the le, characters trying to fit into a mold. tonight on fbn, ron paul o